Ok come on, be Rebirth like old times here, what's best per each class? about less char's atm.

what's best and WHY? we need the proof and the math, so to speak:)

mage: lukless? low luk? or normal?
when to stop adding ap?
do i have to add anything at all?

What the reasons for what?
Don't say opinions, find facts for me!

bowmans: what's best, being strless? or being low str? or normal?
why is that better than the other?
and rememer bowmans equip don't need str only bows do, and highest lvl bow is lvl 120 only.

and also all the other char's?

but mainly these 2, please answer because what i think is 100% right to be the strongest, well, some people don't agree in theori, they can't see why it's not good enough just to be normal mage for ex. and then just buy int equip even though it cost more...
and so on, so i'm trying to prove a point here.
(not intended to sound mean here, just wants a bit of math/numbers like, 10 int = more mp per lvl, and like how much dex gives 1 w att? )

Btw anyone know about a guy called "lobsters" ign name?

what's his real name, and who is he?
He told me he's an old Rebirth member^^'

Im lobsters...... and post big bang and all the potential shit you should not add any secondary stats no matter what class you make, end of story.

About mage low luk would be best if you're going to use 163 lvl wep if you have funds and chtp will be able to get then it'll be nice to stop on 40-50 luk I think since you'll have enough luk to wear eq with nice pott and also wear your hlvl staff more luk is useless.

About bowman best will be strless since he doesn't need any str to wear clothes and there should be vip xbow soon or just do like me and get 120 str from eq while you have everything scrolled on dex and use speargrave 5 dex from lvl up is like 8-9 dex for me atm(64% dex) and gives me like 130-150 range while 1 att gives me about 80.


Well lukless mage is most likely useless unless you have some hacked gear +100 all then you can go lukless XD normal is useless as well sooner or later you'll get more luk from common stuff etc so lowluk is best for mage luk on which you'll stop depends on your funds.

Bowman lowstr is curently best I guess(unless you can get 115 str from eq) since VIP xbow is not out yet str on which you stop also depends on your funds.

But if you can afford EVERYTHING, then what?

And people some guy lvl 200 told me that ap limit is 1004

and in lvl 200 if you are less char all the way in lvl 200 you get stuck with ap points left anyway, like 30 luk or something, so in the end it's not killing the char's having something secondary stat right? ;p

ajkboan wrote:

Im lobsters...... and post big bang and all the potential shit you should not add any secondary stats no matter what class you make, end of story.

And don't call lickus a noob guild then.
Just because it's not as pro as Rebirth was it's not a noob guild, and it has less hackers if any, than rebirth had...

They don't only care about being pro, but also about a lot of other stuff, and yea i think myself that's a little annoying that we can have noobs in guild not just stay on buddy lists, but well that's how it is

At least it's nice and active and pro as well. and closest to legit that i can find.

but ty for telling who you were:p

And ty marc for the input also ;D

well if you can afford ALL then strless is best with much % gear.

Cassidy wrote:

well if you can afford ALL then strless is best with much % gear.

Yea i know that^^
But can you find the math for me?

The big WHY?
i mean the total and detailed explanation of why being str less is soo much better than being low str?

the reason(s) and like many of our guides from in the past, the numbers, like 6 dex for a bowman = 0.8 w att or something like that:)

And how come it's almost only lickus people that's answering xD
You and me, marc:p
Where is the rest of the remains of Rebirth? O.o

just play for fun dammit

HERO wrote:

just play for fun dammit

I am having fun
Part of my fun is trying to get as good as possible and i like the math in it because then i knows what's correct and what's not^^

I just miss some of those guides Rebirth used to post, like kiti used to post and such

Raíce wrote:

HERO wrote:

just play for fun dammit

I am having fun
Part of my fun is trying to get as good as possible and i like the math in it because then i knows what's correct and what's not^^

I just miss some of those guides Rebirth used to post, like kiti used to post and such

the math is like matt already told you ditlev

With Big bang you should not add any secondary stats,
CAUSE of new ACC system + potential and cheapy scrolls

(ps, if max ap points is 1004 i doubt that hardly, if you mean 1004 ap points in main
Ability, cause its should be verry easy to get that with some potential stuffs)

Zinjie wrote:

Raíce wrote:

HERO wrote:

just play for fun dammit

I am having fun
Part of my fun is trying to get as good as possible and i like the math in it because then i knows what's correct and what's not^^

I just miss some of those guides Rebirth used to post, like kiti used to post and such

the math is like matt already told you ditlev

With Big bang you should not add any secondary stats,
CAUSE of new ACC system + potential and cheapy scrolls

(ps, if max ap points is 1004 i doubt that hardly, if you mean 1004 ap points in main
Ability, cause its should be verry easy to get that with some potential stuffs)

That stat thing is just what some lvl 200 told me:)

and Chris i meant the math in like this:

http://rebirth.guildjdr.com/t436-hp-washing-guide

what i consider math is calculation of the things we talk about, instead of just saying, that's like that, i just love to be 100% sure by having the numbers

200 luk , rest goes into str -> best battle mage strategy
you'll be able to hit every mob dealing a huge amount of damage.

Raíce wrote:

Zinjie wrote:

Raíce wrote:

HERO wrote:

just play for fun dammit

I am having fun
Part of my fun is trying to get as good as possible and i like the math in it because then i knows what's correct and what's not^^

I just miss some of those guides Rebirth used to post, like kiti used to post and such

the math is like matt already told you ditlev

With Big bang you should not add any secondary stats,
CAUSE of new ACC system + potential and cheapy scrolls

(ps, if max ap points is 1004 i doubt that hardly, if you mean 1004 ap points in main
Ability, cause its should be verry easy to get that with some potential stuffs)

That stat thing is just what some lvl 200 told me:)

and Chris i meant the math in like this:

http://rebirth.guildjdr.com/t436-hp-washing-guide

what i consider math is calculation of the things we talk about, instead of just saying, that's like that, i just love to be 100% sure by having the numbers

I guess its not that hard to calculate whats best self

if you only could get max 1004 ap max, nobody will ever hit dmg cap......

well look this link up, Flyx got 35xx ap points.... so i guess there ISENT a cap on how many AP points you can get, I really doubt.
With hes dmg range, he only hit like max 500k each star so if there was a cap on 1004 o.O

I think he meant BASE AP.

cba to find math things etc XD

Cassidy wrote:

I think he meant BASE AP.

cba to find math things etc XD

Yea i think so too;p

But anyway this post did not went as a thought it would xD
anyway, hope there still we be SOME activity on this forum ones in a while:)

I doubt so , Rebirth is done for. Unless Johnny finnaly will take some care of Wave as I talk with Wave members they're not happy about actuall status... about some nib alliance which ks each other , about no activity at all(on chat) I'm in LickUs now ,I'm not a jr, feels so strange after I was jr for a looong time haha , oh well I still would say to destroy this alliance make mule guild with smialr name or at least same emblem and inivte many randoms which doesn't sounds so good but they can fix your activity in guild and if they're not nice then just kick them... anyways are you even alive Johnny?:<

Cassidy wrote:

I doubt so , Rebirth is done for. Unless Johnny finnaly will take some care of Wave as I talk with Wave members they're not happy about actuall status... about some nib alliance which ks each other , about no activity at all(on chat) I'm in LickUs now ,I'm not a jr, feels so strange after I was jr for a looong time haha , oh well I still would say to destroy this alliance make mule guild with smialr name or at least same emblem and inivte many randoms which doesn't sounds so good but they can fix your activity in guild and if they're not nice then just kick them... anyways are you even alive Johnny?:<

i know wave has bad times, but i meant just the forum

And marc you are too little active atm:p
Lickus is getting mroe and more awesome all the time
so awesome people and i like that just because we got a few noobs and some a little low lvl'd there's no judgement about it

WE are seriously getting filled up in this guild xD
And we have very pro people too^^
Marc come and enjoy it will you?
ohh btw the guys are nice and cool, but the girls are totally too awesome
so speak to them too marc;)
if anyone wanna consider Lickus then you know where to find us xD

I'm not going to play maple for some time... got bored of it once again

Cassidy wrote:

I'm not going to play maple for some time... got bored of it once again

omg no marc:i
tht's what happens when you grind too much in a row, that's why i never let myself grind too much, just makes it boring at some point/eventually.

you just need to talk more personal to the lickus members:3
they make it all fun again, i'm seriously having a great time<3

Just don't get inactive:i
btw awesome comments on forum!^^

Cassidy wrote:

I'm not going to play maple for some time... got bored of it once again

Hahahahah.
PMDs today and you'll be online for sure

Madi wrote:

Cassidy wrote:

I'm not going to play maple for some time... got bored of it once again

Hahahahah.
PMDs today and you'll be online for sure

When the fix the bugs? Unless ofc it is the point all the thing u cant in there

I doubt it'll be 2x exp pmd event.

Cassidy wrote:

I doubt it'll be 2x exp pmd event.

I was gone a while xD 2x???
Pmd when?

Cassidy wrote:

I doubt it'll be 2x exp pmd event.

well at least it says extra exp, but still that it's different kind of pmd than normal xD
but there are exp!:i